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also a live look from the steps of the legislature and michigan right now. the national labor unions are rally in still worked to the right to work boat. it is aimed at organized labor. if it is passed and signed into law which looks like it's when that happened michigan will become the 24th right to work state bed requirements than non-union employees play unions for negotiate contracts and other services. california is not one of those ride to work states right now. this is also happening with wisconsin. we will keep watching the process. >> we have erica looking at the forecast for today >> we have several locations in the upper 30's today. temperatures could continue to decline as we heading closer to sunrise. let us live locally dense fog with visibility at 04 and about all. drive with extra caution. we have made improvements for napa to 7 mi. now. 9 mi. in santa rosa. just half a mile visibility in fairfield and clear conditions for the rest of the bay area. satellite and radar shows a lot of cloud cover and it will continue to stream into the bay. thi
also a live look from the steps of the legislature and michigan right now. the national labor unions are rally in still worked to the right to work boat. it is aimed at organized labor. if it is passed and signed into law which looks like it's when that happened michigan will become the 24th right to work state bed requirements than non-union employees play unions for negotiate contracts and other services. california is not one of those ride to work states right now. this is also happening...
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. >>> michigan lawmakers have taken the final step toward returning traditional pro union stronghold into a right to work stay katie marzullo is live in the newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: to bring this home, california is not a right to work state. unions here can make workers join and pay dues. michigan going in the opposite direction, less than two hours ago the house passed right to work legislation, affecting public sector workers they passed it 58-51. representatives had already ok'd second bill focusing on private sector employees the senate approved both last week. with thousands circling outside the capitol in lansing, and another 2,000 plus inside, the michigan house has approved the second of two contentious right to work bills that weaken union power in the pro labor state. worker reaction was swift and angry. >> getting lied to, with we done like it. >> reporter: if and when legislation clears the governor's desk, michigan will be the 24th right to work state that means nonunion employs won't be forced to pay unions for services. backers say it will bring more job
. >>> michigan lawmakers have taken the final step toward returning traditional pro union stronghold into a right to work stay katie marzullo is live in the newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: to bring this home, california is not a right to work state. unions here can make workers join and pay dues. michigan going in the opposite direction, less than two hours ago the house passed right to work legislation, affecting public sector workers they passed it 58-51. representatives...
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. >> i'm from michigan and i'm used to the dime and you have a party at your house and collect the recyclables. that is how i made it for college. >> there is a value. >> next item, please. >> you are saying if you drink enough, you can afford breakfast? >> [ laughter ] >> in college, we used to have parties and everybody had to leave their bottles worth a dime in michigan. if you have a case of beer, it's $2.40 and we had several and we would go to the grocery store and get $20 for breakfast. >> if you could get up in the morning [ laughter ] >> commissioners item 5 discussion on sunday park meter scheduled to take effect january 6th, 2013. director, did you want me to give the summary? >> yes, please lead us through this. >> commissioners, i will just summarize, a pretty brief, but informative faq in your package and for members of public online is a web link for sunday meter information. as of january 6th, 2013 all sunday parking meters will be enforced on sunday from noon to 6:00 p.m. with four-hour time limits and note that fisherman's wharf and other areas have different times. parking h
. >> i'm from michigan and i'm used to the dime and you have a party at your house and collect the recyclables. that is how i made it for college. >> there is a value. >> next item, please. >> you are saying if you drink enough, you can afford breakfast? >> [ laughter ] >> in college, we used to have parties and everybody had to leave their bottles worth a dime in michigan. if you have a case of beer, it's $2.40 and we had several and we would go to the...
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. >>> michigan lawmakers have taken the final step toward returning traditional pro union stronghold into a right to work stay katie marzullo is live in the newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: to bring this home, california is not a right to work state. unions here can make workers join and pay dues. michigan going in the opposite direction, less than two hours ago the house passed right to work legislation, affecting public sector workers they passed it 58-51. representatives had already ok'd second bill focusing on private sector employees the senate approved both last week. with thousands circling outside the capitol in lansing, and another 2,000 plus inside, the michigan house has approved the second of two contentious right to work bills that weaken union power in the pro labor state. worker reaction was swift and angry. >> getting lied to, with we done like it. >> reporter: if and when legislation clears the governor's desk, michigan will be the 24th right to work state that means nonunion employs won't be forced to pay unions for services. backers say it will bring more job
. >>> michigan lawmakers have taken the final step toward returning traditional pro union stronghold into a right to work stay katie marzullo is live in the newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: to bring this home, california is not a right to work state. unions here can make workers join and pay dues. michigan going in the opposite direction, less than two hours ago the house passed right to work legislation, affecting public sector workers they passed it 58-51. representatives...
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. >>> lawmakers in michigan will vote today on a controversial right to work bill. police are preparing for as many as 10,000 protestors. the bill would allow workers at union represented employers to opt out of paying dues even though the union would still bargain on their behalf. critics say it's a way to break the unions. >> if i'm being provided a service by a particular organization, i don't care if that's a club due or if it's something, then i should be paying for a service that's provided to me. >> supporters of the bill say it will attract businesses and bring more jobs to michigan. the republican governor is expected to sign it if it passes as expected. michigan has the highest percentage of union workers in the country. >>> there have been no public comments in the past couple of days about the "fiscal cliff" negotiations which may be a good sign. house speaker john boehner the president are the only parties negotiating right now and no details have leaked out. today congressional democrats will hold a press conference to urge republicans to preserve medi
. >>> lawmakers in michigan will vote today on a controversial right to work bill. police are preparing for as many as 10,000 protestors. the bill would allow workers at union represented employers to opt out of paying dues even though the union would still bargain on their behalf. critics say it's a way to break the unions. >> if i'm being provided a service by a particular organization, i don't care if that's a club due or if it's something, then i should be paying for a...
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michigan is now the 24th state to did so. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents including president obama are adamant the law is a political attack against unions. >>> in this economy people are struggling to find work but would you believe a bay area restaurant is struggling to find workers? cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran is in emeryville now. they have been holding job fairs. >> we're outside the construction site of that new restaurant also across the street from a job fair which started a few moments ago. as you can see by our little bear friend here. normally restaurant leaders of the black bear diner say they have lines around the block but as you can see, that isn't the case. >> we have very small turnout in comparison to our other job fairs. and we were a bit shocked. that's why we just were left dumbfounded. >> reporter: this is the site of the new black bear diner set to open next month. now the restaurant's concern is, will they have enough people to staff it? >> in comparison when we had
michigan is now the 24th state to did so. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents including president obama are adamant the law is a political attack against unions. >>> in this economy people are struggling to find work but would you believe a bay area restaurant is struggling to find workers? cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran is in emeryville now. they have been holding job fairs. >> we're outside the construction site of that new restaurant also across the...
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michigan governor rick snyder has pledged to sign the measure into law. >> in world news. south africa's former president, nelson mandela is suffering from a recurring lung infection and is responding to medical treatments. that's according to the nation's presidency. the 94- year-old has been hospitalized since saturday for medical tests at a hospital near the nation's capital. government officials originally declined to say what caused the hospital stay. no word yet on when he is expected to be released. >> meanwhile, a stomach virus has forced u-s secretary of state hilliary clinton to cancel a trip to the middle east clinton was supposed to fly to morocco for a wednesday meeting with the "friends of syria." it's a group that focuses on ways to support syria's opposition against the regime of syrian president bashar al-assad. deputy secretary of state william burns will go in clinton's place to the meeting. >> we have a live look over the golden gate bridge your ride is really nice. no problems out marin county heading south bound on 101. erica will be here with a forec
michigan governor rick snyder has pledged to sign the measure into law. >> in world news. south africa's former president, nelson mandela is suffering from a recurring lung infection and is responding to medical treatments. that's according to the nation's presidency. the 94- year-old has been hospitalized since saturday for medical tests at a hospital near the nation's capital. government officials originally declined to say what caused the hospital stay. no word yet on when he is...
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it's different than bottle bills in other states if you are familiar with the bottle bill in michigan or new york or massachusetts. you can take your bottle back to any store and get your nickel or dime back. this was intended to consolidate those many sites into more larger sites on typically supermarket parking lots. that is really where, as opposed to in the store, it's in the parking lot. that is how the law was set up in san francisco we have about 50 stores that qualify as supermarkets for convenience sake, we, the state, set up a system where only about 30 of those were recycling centers back in 1986. over time, through real estate consolidation, the closing of supermarkets or the reduction of parking lots that we have seen, those 30 that we used to have in 1990 are down to about 20 now. at the same time, the number of containers that we get money back for is much greater. there is now water bottles, juice boxes, a lot of things that didn't used to be in the law that are now in the law. so there is a tremendous amount of volume going through this and amounts to about $17 millio
it's different than bottle bills in other states if you are familiar with the bottle bill in michigan or new york or massachusetts. you can take your bottle back to any store and get your nickel or dime back. this was intended to consolidate those many sites into more larger sites on typically supermarket parking lots. that is really where, as opposed to in the store, it's in the parking lot. that is how the law was set up in san francisco we have about 50 stores that qualify as supermarkets...
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thousands are expected at the michigan state house for the final vote on the right to work law. they are asking them to opt out of paying dues even though the union works on their behalf. >> we give freedom of choice to our workplace and legislature move promptly moving us through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk i plan on signing it. >> the says the show -- states show it is a right to work for less. >> the bill is expected to pass and 23 other states already have right to work laws. >>> they are giving 3.5 to buy additional cars. the that will allow it to run passenger trains at half hour intervals. the money had been earmarked for pedestrian and cyclist safety. >>> let's go to traffic with sal. hey, sal. >>> once again we are looking at the golden gate bridge and check it out it looks like they have reopened most of the lanes south and north and you might see some lane workers in the lanes so just be careful if you come up on that and also with the bay bridge, that looks good coming into san francisco. it is always surprising and there are no problems getting in
thousands are expected at the michigan state house for the final vote on the right to work law. they are asking them to opt out of paying dues even though the union works on their behalf. >> we give freedom of choice to our workplace and legislature move promptly moving us through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk i plan on signing it. >> the says the show -- states show it is a right to work for less. >> the bill is expected to pass and 23 other states already...
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lansing, michigan today. police are being called in. the bill with would make it illegal to require payment of union dues as a condition of employment. critics say it is a way to break unions supporters say it is good for workers. democrats are upset saying the ran-not dated legislature shoved the measure -- the republican-dominate -- >>> europe's bank agreeing to pay a fine for anotherly -- for nearly two billion dollars and sorry for past mistakes. facebook making change to infrastructure. officials gathering today for start of two day meeting. fed will unleash new round of bond buying designed to keep interest rates low. higher close yesterday. if you are looking for a bargain now could be a good time to pick up a pick-up. general motors boosting buyer insensitives trying to dump extra stock and keep up with better deals on-ramps and nissan titans. at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >>> 5:46. this afternoon as you drive home or after you get home and have dinner that you see the rain? >> may ha
lansing, michigan today. police are being called in. the bill with would make it illegal to require payment of union dues as a condition of employment. critics say it is a way to break unions supporters say it is good for workers. democrats are upset saying the ran-not dated legislature shoved the measure -- the republican-dominate -- >>> europe's bank agreeing to pay a fine for anotherly -- for nearly two billion dollars and sorry for past mistakes. facebook making change to...
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. >>> thousands of protesters are expecting in lansing, michigan today. police are being called to handle angry crowds that are expected to turn out. the bill would allow workers at union represented businesses opt-out of paying dues. critics say it is a way to break unions. supporters say it is good for workers and would attract businesses. union backers concede they have little chance of stopping the measure passed by the republican legislature and the governor it >>> a woman who spent six days stranded in the sierra snow is recovering from hypothermia that took her boyfriend's life. in a just released 911 recording, we hear reaction after she was found by her brother. >> reporter: days after her boyfriend's jeep got stuck on a snowy road, paula lane was found by her brother, gary acting on a hunch. - front loader to go looking for his missing sister. the resort was a mile down the road. >> the lady who was missing for days has just been brought in, in hypothermic condition. >> can you describe her condition? >> hypothermic, frostbite on the feet. right
. >>> thousands of protesters are expecting in lansing, michigan today. police are being called to handle angry crowds that are expected to turn out. the bill would allow workers at union represented businesses opt-out of paying dues. critics say it is a way to break unions. supporters say it is good for workers and would attract businesses. union backers concede they have little chance of stopping the measure passed by the republican legislature and the governor it >>> a...
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. >>> happening now, thousands of protesters are marching on the state capitol in lancing, michigan ahead of a controversial bill that could weaken the power of unions. [chanting] >> this is new video of the protesters this morning. the bill would make it voluntary for workers to join unions. they could not be forced to pay dues even though the union would still bargain on their behalf. >> you will have people that will be working right alongside you that will not have to pay union dues if you pay union dues but will still be able to get all of the benefits from being a union member. >> shouldn't people have the opportunity to say if they want to belong or not? and i think this could be good for economic development. >> democrats oppose the measure but republicans have a majority in the state legislature so the bill is expected to pass. this is a live look from the newschopper of some of the crowds that have gathered outside of the state capitol there in lancing, michigan. again, thousands of union members gathering to protest the so-called "right to work" legislation and that includes au
. >>> happening now, thousands of protesters are marching on the state capitol in lancing, michigan ahead of a controversial bill that could weaken the power of unions. [chanting] >> this is new video of the protesters this morning. the bill would make it voluntary for workers to join unions. they could not be forced to pay dues even though the union would still bargain on their behalf. >> you will have people that will be working right alongside you that will not have to...
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speak in michigan yesterday the president said he is willing to compromise a little. republicans have adamantly opposed raising taxes but now some are considering it if democrats will agree to social security and medicare changes. this week, the federal reserve is expected to announce a new bond buying program aimed at lower interest rates. if it works it might soften the blow if the nation does go over the "fiscal cliff" but fed chair ben bernanke says if a budget deal isn't reached, there is little the central bank can do to offset the shock of those spending increases and tax cuts. and holiday shopping is leading to more work. leading jobs placement firm says retailers added more than 465,000 seasonal workers last month. that's up 21% from a year ago. that's your moneywatch. for more, stay with cbsmoneywatch.com. in new york, i'm ashley morrison. >>> time now for a quick look at what's coming up later on "cbs this morning." norah o'donnell joins us from new york. >> good morning. great to see you. we're talking about drug smugglers today. they are getting bolder, m
speak in michigan yesterday the president said he is willing to compromise a little. republicans have adamantly opposed raising taxes but now some are considering it if democrats will agree to social security and medicare changes. this week, the federal reserve is expected to announce a new bond buying program aimed at lower interest rates. if it works it might soften the blow if the nation does go over the "fiscal cliff" but fed chair ben bernanke says if a budget deal isn't reached,...
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here we have banners and signs of for a hotly contested issue in the state of michigan. you can see the potential passage of this right to work lot that is what people in the thousands of protest. this would make mich. the 24 the right to work state. we will be following the latest of violence throughout the day. >> online travel adviser hot wired not, as compiled a list of the top most festive destinations for this holiday season. topics ... san juan pr for a six weeklong celebration of christmas from day to day after thanksgiving until the feast of the three kings on january 6th. new york also makes the cut with the attraction of the rockefeller center christmas tree and its radio center christmas bechtel it spectacular. rounding out the top three is on the beach in australia where is summer tech's off on december 1st for all the servers and sunbathers out there. >> kenyan college surfingand a s not looking good. the league is cancel of games through december 30th at the made two more weeks of the season. so far more than 507 canceled including the new year's winter da
here we have banners and signs of for a hotly contested issue in the state of michigan. you can see the potential passage of this right to work lot that is what people in the thousands of protest. this would make mich. the 24 the right to work state. we will be following the latest of violence throughout the day. >> online travel adviser hot wired not, as compiled a list of the top most festive destinations for this holiday season. topics ... san juan pr for a six weeklong celebration of...
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. >>> president obama traveled to michigan today to try to sell his plan for pulling the country back from the fiscal cliff. he spoke to workers at a auto engine plant. he said lawmakers need to make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need. but he said he is determined to keep tax breaks in place for the middle class while raising taxes for higher earning americans. >> i won't compromise on. i am not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me get to keep all our tax breaks and we are asking students to pay higher student los. >> republicans insist cuts to entitlement programs should be on the table. they must act before december 31 to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> on wall street today, the dow is up 14 to 13,169. the nasdaq is up 8 at 2,986. the s&p is up 0.48 at 1,418. >>> the pentagon identified a navy s.e.a.l. killed over the weekend while rescuing a doctor held captive in afghanistan. he died during the raid. it freed the doctor who was working for a colorado based organization when he was taken captive. he was part of the same group th
. >>> president obama traveled to michigan today to try to sell his plan for pulling the country back from the fiscal cliff. he spoke to workers at a auto engine plant. he said lawmakers need to make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need. but he said he is determined to keep tax breaks in place for the middle class while raising taxes for higher earning americans. >> i won't compromise on. i am not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including...
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. >> fierce time thousands plan to pro necessary michigan against a right to work bill. hour president obama is weighing in. >> even santa needs help sometimes. how one basketball star is bringing joy to some needy children. ,, ♪ secondhand smoke affects everyone's health. it's not just irritating. it can cause heart disease and even death. speak up about secondhand smoke. your health and the health of your family depend on it. to make just about anything delicious. introducing new jif chocolate flavored hazelnut spread. whatever you put it on... reaches a whole new level of deliciousness. choosy moms choose jif. a-claus. countinuing a 20-year tradi, n-b-a star shaquille o'ne >>> it is the season of giving. no one knows that better than shaqa claus. continuing a 20 years tradition, shaquille o'neal brought truckloads of toys for kids in need to the toys 'r us are times square. he and marines will distributed the toys. he played one year in boston. he does a lot for charity. >> it's so great to see. i like the shaq-a-claus. >> he is a little taller than most santas! but
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. >>> time now 5:27 massive protests in michigan and the critics say it would weaken the power of unions. >>> an oakland business goes up in flames for the second time in months. >>> plus a pipe bomb investigation in pleasant hill, the message parents are hearing from the school superintendent. $ . >>> good morning, it is december 11th, i am dave clark. >> and i am pam cook, time now is 5:30, we definitely feel it getting colder, let's go to steve. >>> it's cold out there for some, upper 20s and 30s all over the bay and an increase in fog and also on the coast means 50s and 60s or low 60s, here is sal. >>> good morning, traffic is moving well as you come to the willow pass grade with no major problems and the morning commute looks good, we have some troubled spots. a complete update ahead, let's go back to dave and pam. >>> flames gutted an apartment building and now some families are homeless. tara moriarty was there moments after the fire started and you just spoke to a woman who was evacuated, what did she say? >> reporter: she said she was sleeping and heard popping sounds and ran do
. >>> time now 5:27 massive protests in michigan and the critics say it would weaken the power of unions. >>> an oakland business goes up in flames for the second time in months. >>> plus a pipe bomb investigation in pleasant hill, the message parents are hearing from the school superintendent. $ . >>> good morning, it is december 11th, i am dave clark. >> and i am pam cook, time now is 5:30, we definitely feel it getting colder, let's go to steve....
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mention the cities that are looking to install these systems we have new jane oregon traverse city michigan columbus ohio hartford connecticut athens georgia all of these cities across the country looking to install these systems are you were you surprised at how widespread it's becoming or how many cities are looking into making this part of their public transit system. you know those are cities that are that are at different stages of installing or upgrading their systems and they're trying to give you examples to sort of demonstrate the breadth both you know from big cosmopolitan places like san francisco to small college towns like japanese georgia just to get a sense of how widespread this is and the justification of course michael is that this is making us safer is there any proof that that's in fact what it does i mean doesn't make us safer it's hard to know. i believe that the experts weigh in on. a very interesting you and thank you very much for telling us all about your findings that was reporter for the daily michael brick thanks for everything and we are going to leave it off t
mention the cities that are looking to install these systems we have new jane oregon traverse city michigan columbus ohio hartford connecticut athens georgia all of these cities across the country looking to install these systems are you were you surprised at how widespread it's becoming or how many cities are looking into making this part of their public transit system. you know those are cities that are that are at different stages of installing or upgrading their systems and they're trying...
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michigan's governor expected to sign legislation today making that state a right too work state meaning you don't have to pay union dues when working in a union shop. >>> more about the medical condition keeping former president mandela hospitalize. he is you ever something from a recovering lung infection and is responding to treatment. he has been in the hospital since saturday it >>> americans are drinking less milk. milk consumption down 30% since 1975 one dairy trade group is calling the drop a crisis and says it is not.9y sustainable. the reason clouds -- includes the growing popularity of -- [ unintelligible ] >>> proud san sis cans will not be happy to -- san franciscans will not be happy to learn that boston is the top city with sf second, seattle, vancouver and new york. san francisco stands out in environmental leadership around ialship edged -- and entrepreneurialship edged out by boston. >> continuing to follow breaking news car guess over cliff. >>> thousands -- thousands of dead squid washing ashore on a bay area beach. >>> new developments in the deadly jenni rivera cras
michigan's governor expected to sign legislation today making that state a right too work state meaning you don't have to pay union dues when working in a union shop. >>> more about the medical condition keeping former president mandela hospitalize. he is you ever something from a recovering lung infection and is responding to treatment. he has been in the hospital since saturday it >>> americans are drinking less milk. milk consumption down 30% since 1975 one dairy trade...
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i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing jobs back. executives said they had a duty to do it. it was their obligation to do it. >> when you do something for that reason, it's not a huge number. >>> guys, read the atlantic monthly. we had the author on. james on, come back. the suggestion in this article at least, outsourcing was a fad, a corporate fad. some businesses trying to make a quick buck over a decade. at the end of the day, it didn't work and even if it worked for a while, it doesn't work in our economy. >> saying it's a fad is a really dangerous thing to say. that's not what it was. it wasn
i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing...
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. >>> we're going to start out with the michigan valedictorian on trial for killing his mother. his ex-girlfriend pointed a picture inside the home before the murder. but which side does it help? dan and nancy to weigh in on that. first, abc's john muller. >> reporter: chilling testimony from the ex-girlfriend of a former high school valedictorian, accused of brutally murdering his own mother. >> she believed her medication was sorcery and witchcraft. and therefore, it was evil. >> reporter: holly telling jurors ruth pyne was dangerous and delusional, assaulting her son, jeffrey esh, in the months before she was murdered. >> she had been storing knives in her headboard. she watched the religious channel. >> reporter: prosecutors say 22-year-old jeffrey pyne bludgeoned his mother to death in the family's michigan garage in may of 2011. they claim he was fueled by pent-up rage after years of abuse at the hands of a mentally ill mother. who spent time in jail for abusing him. troubling for the defense, the dramatic blisters on jeffrey pyne's hands. disturbing photos that jurors hav
. >>> we're going to start out with the michigan valedictorian on trial for killing his mother. his ex-girlfriend pointed a picture inside the home before the murder. but which side does it help? dan and nancy to weigh in on that. first, abc's john muller. >> reporter: chilling testimony from the ex-girlfriend of a former high school valedictorian, accused of brutally murdering his own mother. >> she believed her medication was sorcery and witchcraft. and therefore, it was...
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we've got a big obstacle in the way with lake michigan to get product to the east coast. so i recognize there's need for investment. but i often hear from my constituents the concern of the government, of the federal government picking regions of the country to win and lose in the economic battles that take place between states. in other words, if we invest a lot of money in the northeast quarter's federal taxpayer or a lot of money in california, the fax payer in -- taxpayer in wisconsin is wondering are we just making those states more competitive to compete against wisconsin manufacturing? could you talk a little bit about how the whole thing plays together and what the answer should be? >> first of all, i know you know this, but you all were in the ball game. >> yeah. i'm not making the statement on -- >> i know you're not. i'm saying if you feel your state is disadvantaged, it's not because of us. we wanted to make investments, we were ready to make investments. >> let's take it from montana. let's just take it from a different region because the broader question is
we've got a big obstacle in the way with lake michigan to get product to the east coast. so i recognize there's need for investment. but i often hear from my constituents the concern of the government, of the federal government picking regions of the country to win and lose in the economic battles that take place between states. in other words, if we invest a lot of money in the northeast quarter's federal taxpayer or a lot of money in california, the fax payer in -- taxpayer in wisconsin is...